Gun Control

The NRA wants even more guns in schools.

 

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Jewish Daily Forward posted a column by journalist Naomi Zeveloff, who spoke with Veronique Pozner about Noah’s death and the days that followed. Zeveloff details her struggle with publishing the information she was given by Mrs. Pozner — but ultimately concludes the grieving parent hoped to illustrate in facts and difficult truths what the “angels in heaven” narrative so thoroughly conceals.

At the start of the piece, Zeveloff quotes Pozner as she describes asking Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy to view Noah’s open casket — Veronique Pozner explains, heartbreakingly, how she hoped that if the time ever came to pass legislation on the factors that led to her son’s death, Gov. Malloy would be able to place a face and a person with the decision:

“I needed it to have a face for him … If there is ever a piece of legislation that comes across his desk, I needed it to be real for him.”

Later in the discussion, Zeveloff explains that Noah’s mom described, without prompting, the state of his remains when she viewed them, saying:

“We all saw how beautiful he was. He had thick, shiny hair, beautiful long eyelashes that rested on his cheeks. He looked like he was sleeping. But the reality of it was under the cloth he had covering his mouth there was no mouth left. His jaw was blown away. I just want people to know the ugliness of it so we don’t talk about it abstractly, like these little angels just went to heaven. No. They were butchered. They were brutalized. And that is what haunts me at night.”

Zeveloff asks Pozner how she came to make the decision to view Noah’s body, and what tears at your soul about it is the essence of her statement — because who among us would not feel the exact same way?

Veronique Pozner replied:

“I owed it to him as his mother, the good, the bad, the ugly … It is not up to me to say I am only going to look at you and deal with you when you are alive, that I am going to block out the reality of what you look like when you are dead. And as a little boy, you have to go in the ground. If I am going to shut my eyes to that I am not his mother. I had to bear it. I had to do it.”

Indeed, in those two exchanges, it seems the crux of the issue is clear — Veronique Pozner made the difficult choice to view Noah’s body after he had been shot 11 times at close range because she owed it to him, as his mother, to know.

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25 Responses to Gun Control

  1. MrsGunka says:

    It’s time for LaPierre to view the autopsy pictures to see just what kind of evil he is promoting by saying guns don’t kill. The kind of guns he wants everyone to have access to that don’t just puncture the body but tears it up and leaves it mangled beyond recognition. It is no longer necessary to be a marksman to get your prey….just aim in the general direction and start pulling the trigger and you are bound to hit and destroy anything in it’s path. That man should have all his guns taken away from him as he is as crazy as any assassin! Also time for the coroners to speak up for any person who has met their fate this way.

    If you get a chance go read politcususa on Joe and Mika’s response. Everyone needs to see this. I don’t even like them, but they hit this one on the head and their panel!

  2. Sirenoftitan says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21037587

    “Dylan was wrapped in Mrs Murphy’s arms,” explained Mrs Hockley. “She was protecting several children, but Dylan was the one that was actually in her arms. And that helps a little bit.”

  3. anonymous says:

    Isn’t Sarah Palin anti-gun control? Where is her leadership at such a vital time for her team?

  4. Tumbleweed1 says:

    Yo Irishgirl! This is completely OT, but I came across this article today…..
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9804632/Tesco-beef-burgers-found-to-contain-29-horse-meat.html
    Says “beef” burgers in Ireland are made of 29% HORSEMEAT. Please, say it ain’t so, Joe.
    Hmm…do you think that might be why austintxx doesn’t like Irish food??…. Is horsemeat “bland”?Things to ponder….
    Jeebus. Hope Spike doesn’t see this. I’ll NEVER get her scaredy ass on a plane to Ireland with me if she thinks she’s going to eat horsemeat when she gets there……:(

  5. titlewave says:

    The anti-gun control people will not listen to anything- they have been waiting (I won’t say in fear, because I think they want this fight) for this day to come. For many different reasons. And they will hear what they want to think they are hearing from the President and others on the subject.

    They will stand on their soapbox, defend their Constitution and weapons, and not hear the dialogue taking place in this country. They are preparing to come to a fight, not the table of discussion.

    • irishgirl999 says:

      I agree. No one is taking their guns away – except for assault weapons. How can they even defend that? They are looking for a fight and are even prepared to drag the President’s children into it. They are utterly despicable.

      • Forty Watt says:

        It doesn’t seem to take much for chronically fearful people to become despicable. Any thing, however small, however illogical that is perceived as a threat turns fear into terror and lashing out wildly. These people are damaged and want to damage all of us.

  6. Forty Watt says:

    Here we have it – http://www.salon.com/2013/01/15/this_man_helped_save_six_children_is_now_getting_harassed_for_it/

    Sniveling, cowardly f*ckers always pick on the vulnerable. Beneath cotempt.

    • Uberduck says:

      Wow, Forty – that’s pretty messed up.

    • irishgirl999 says:

      As one poster at Salon said:
      “paulie
      Tuesday, Jan 15, 2013 09:02 PM +0000

      They don’t just (want) to harm Rosen, they want to deny what their own political stances have wrought upon innocent children.

      Rosen is a just a stand in for the crisis they themselves are trying to stage against a more tolerant America in which a black man can be elected president and women can say “I choose”.”

      • titlewave says:

        Anyone else feel like we’ve fallen into the Twilightzone version of Westside Story? “Us against Them”.
        Why do Americans hate each other so much?

  7. Uberduck says:

    An interesting response to the ad from a SF alum, through the Dish:

    http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2013/01/the-nras-attack-ad-backfires-ctd-1.html

    This obseravation is from 15 years ago, but I wouldn’t doubt that it remains substantially true now.

  8. 1smartcanerican™ says:

    Thanks for this heartbreaking story. I cannot imagine anything worse that trying to come to some type of healing if your small child is simply blown away by a crazed gun- toting idiot for no discernible reason at all, other than his need to cause pain, anguish, and death to people he doesn’t even know!

    I have only scorn for those Americans who are railing against background checks for all gun owners. I think that there should be insurance requirements for gun owners also.

  9. MrsGunka says:

    You know, the kid that shot up the school…I have already blanked out his name!…was probably a victim of bullying himself. He may have been striking out at his mother that morning and it carried over to the school where he was the butt of jokes/bullying for being different and he just decided to end it, but first took his anger out on his mother with her guns and all those nameless faces of kids who had hurt him all his life. I’m not excusing him, mental illness is mental illness and rationality is void. No empathy. But this is just exactly why these type of weapons should not be available to the public and especially when there is someone in the family who can not make sound judgements and has a history of anger. I do think guns should be insured too and make the manufactures more responsible for who their products are being sold to, if they have to be liable also, too! Anyone who sells a gun should be responsible that it is a safe sale and they won’t be held responsible if something happens when someone doesn’t follow the rules! The mother bought the guns, but the guy that sold them to her should also be responsible to know that they would be in safe hands and when he made that sale…all the way up to the company that made it that the transference of ownership would not result in killing of a person for any reason.

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